Budget Hearings

Wednesday, September 23, 2026, 12:45 p.m. (Denver time), Parr-Widener Community Room, Room 389

Transcript

0:30 Pretty funny yesterday that

0:32 afternoon and welcome 3 of our

0:34 budget hearings this

0:37 afternoon. We having runs from

0:40 Denver fire department as well

0:41 Denver Sheriff's Department

0:43 offer something for fire

0:44 department. But before we roll

0:47 into the presentations on

0:47 mining Sarah Watson, I'm

0:48 honored to serve as the chair

0:49 of the Safety Committee as

0:51 well as a facilitator for

0:53 today's discussion. Tom and I

0:55 wonder serve on the road. The

0:57 in the fine District 9 was

0:58 over. Brief introductions from

0:59 folks are on the table. And

1:00 and folks online starting

1:04 right. Emily Garnet chief

1:05 operating officer morning's

1:09 Dan First Perfect 10. Think it

1:10 district 7 afternoon, Kevin

1:17 Southwest numbers District.

1:24 Just 6 and a part Union fight

1:25 Florida. This is not a Amanda

1:29 Sawyer District. I Nats and

1:31 funding to a standard district

1:32 cultivating chief financial

1:37 officer. I just the Mayor it's

1:42 like to run that. Doing a

1:44 teacher pause because anyone

1:46 online by chance because Paul

1:47 Kashmann South Denver district

1:52 6. Councilmember Cashman

1:53 hello, Diana Romero, Campbell,

1:55 Southeast Denver District

1:56 Court. All right. Thank you

2:02 all so much for being here.

2:02 Thank you so much for being

2:02 prepared Denver Fire

2:05 Department. We have your

2:07 presentation from 45 on till

2:07 above to one 30 on. So the

2:12 floor is yours. One. 45

2:16 actually have to for And

2:21 second myself to time as so

2:22 good afternoon, everybody.

2:24 First of all, city council

2:24 members, thank you very much

2:26 allowing me to be here to

2:28 present the 2027 proposed

2:29 budget for Denver Fire

2:31 Department. Looking forward to

2:34 it. My name is Kathleen

2:34 Fredenberg on the deputy chief

2:38 of Denver. Fire Department. So

2:39 jump right into it. I want to

2:42 back just a little bit. So

2:43 that everybody is clear about

2:44 where the Denver Fire

2:46 Department stands in priority.

2:47 And that's through our mission

2:49 and through our vision. And

2:50 it's very simply in our

2:51 mission, desire to serve

2:53 courage, to act, ability to

2:54 perform. And we make our

2:55 decisions based off of of

2:58 that, base model. You're going

2:59 to see consistent theme

3:01 throughout this presentation

3:05 and that's going to be around

3:08 3 things. One, is there a

3:09 prioritization of emergency

3:10 response to our communities,

3:12 making sure it's fully

3:13 resourced and being fully

3:16 resourced. That means fully

3:17 staffed and our firehouse is

3:20 staffed. 24 hours a day. And

3:22 also public safety oversight,

3:24 which is about ensuring safety

3:24 related to the buildings are

3:28 public goes in and that's your

3:30 permitting and inspection

3:31 programs and and bolstering

3:36 that for 2027. So for

3:38 strategic priorities for

3:39 Twenty-twenty 7. Right now

3:41 we're going through our 5 5

3:44 year review through insurance

3:46 services offices. I s o this

3:50 is an entity that evaluate

3:50 some reviews, fire departments

3:54 for their capability

3:55 preparedness for response, the

3:59 things they look at relate to

4:00 where our fire hydrants. Do we

4:01 have enough water going to the

4:02 fire hydrants? Do we have high

4:03 rises? Do we do we follow code

4:05 enforcement around that? Do

4:06 are we prepared with our

4:09 training? Do we have proper

4:10 apparatus? The proper amount

4:13 of people going to and

4:14 incidents to create what they

4:16 call an effective response

4:17 force for us. We're currently

4:18 iso one. That's the highest

4:21 rating that you can get. We

4:24 also happen to be one of the

4:26 133 fire departments in the

4:28 U.S. That are also nationally

4:29 accredited. And so to me that

4:32 evidence is our commitment to

4:36 commitment towards continued

4:36 excellence. But then also our

4:39 progress and improvement.

4:39 Which brings me to the second

4:40 one, which is a realignment

4:41 for response time models. I

4:44 think that we've realized that

4:45 we need to stay progressive,

4:46 more looking holistically,

4:51 especially rent, ems response.

4:53 With we're giving complete and

4:54 holistic response to someone's

4:57 needs when they call for an

4:58 ems emergency recognizing that

5:00 we partnered with. And then

5:02 when Communications Department

5:04 of Safety, Denver, Health,

5:05 paramedics division so that we

5:07 are encompassing all a lesson

5:08 bls resources and it's down to

5:12 the line of right resource,

5:13 right time, making sure that

5:13 we have proper resources for

5:16 the highest acuity type

5:19 emergencies in the ems world.

5:20 You all as city council

5:22 members will be getting

5:23 individual meetings with Xi

5:24 Fulton and also Chief Harper

5:26 with Denver Health to talk

5:28 with you about it. More as

5:31 it's in process. It is being

5:35 created right now. We're

5:35 working through the

5:36 technological part of that,

5:37 which has its challenges.

5:38 We're hopeful to pilot it in

5:40 the end of this year and hopes

5:44 to put it into into action

5:47 activated in 2027 once we've

5:48 had a chance to test it and

5:48 make sure that it's safe and

5:50 where fully prepared to

5:54 execute it. Also during our

5:55 pilot for clarity, we're going

5:57 to be doing the pilot and

5:58 simultaneously continuing to

5:59 track our data based current

6:03 response time goals. And last

6:04 want to continue to prioritize

6:08 our member wellness that we

6:09 have new technology that

6:10 allows us to have anonymous

6:13 collection of information and

6:15 that over alleged to tunnel.

6:17 Access will tell us some of

6:18 the things that causing our

6:20 members to be Knecht. You all.

6:22 You all know because I've

6:25 heard she tell you the

6:26 occupation of firefighting is

6:28 amongst the highest for injury

6:29 ratings. So we're trying to

6:33 find ways that we can utilize

6:33 the information we gather so

6:36 that we're cutting down on

6:38 lost work, calling in sick and

6:45 retention. So again, as I said

6:46 earlier, our budget philosophy

6:49 or 3 core things, one is

6:50 keeping high-quality emergency

6:51 response to all areas of the

6:54 city. Focusing on our

6:55 permitting and compliance or

6:57 permitting programming in

6:58 compliance so that we are

7:00 making sure our buildings are

7:02 safe and then maintaining our

7:02 employee wellness so that

7:04 we're fully prepared and

7:07 responsive to the community's

7:12 Our equity considerations

7:13 obviously maintaining response

7:13 times through data. We're

7:14 going to be confirming that

7:16 we're doing that in an

7:17 equitable way consistently

7:19 throughout all of the areas of

7:21 our city will continue our

7:22 recruitment efforts to make

7:25 sure that we have a diverse

7:26 workforce that mirrors the

7:28 community that we're serving.

7:31 Some examples of that station

7:33 This is Councilmember

7:35 Gilmore's area. We're building

7:36 a new station there and it

7:37 will hopefully done by the end

7:41 of the year. It is one that

7:43 will fill that gap in an area

7:49 that is otherwise underserved.

7:52 This is our current agency

7:53 structure, green and blue. Our

7:54 current command staff. If you

7:57 recall last year, we blended

7:59 one of our divisions to be

8:00 administration and training.

8:00 So we're 5 divisions instead

8:04 6. Now. Our performance

8:09 metrics. So there's 2 things

8:10 that we're looking at here.

8:11 One is your turn out time,

8:12 which is the time in which

8:14 takes a firefighter from the

8:15 time they received a call in

8:17 the vocal arm in the firehouse

8:19 to get on the get their stuff

8:20 together and get out the door.

8:24 That's a 60nd standard. We've

8:25 pretty consistently stayed at

8:27 about 90% compliance, which is

8:30 great and also I compared it

8:33 with the Times in which were

8:34 being judged when we're

8:35 responding to what's called an

8:35 ideal age environment in

8:38 immediately dangerous to life

8:39 and health. We're allowed 80

8:40 seconds for that. And that

8:43 would be things that are

8:44 hazmat structure, fires,

8:44 things where we have to put

8:46 are bunking here on before we

8:48 leave and we are about the

8:49 same 90% compliant in that as

8:53 well. The second part is the

8:53 drive time. It's the time from

8:54 when we leave from the

8:55 firehouse to the time that we

8:59 arrive on scene and right now

9:02 we are steady at about 63%

9:11 compliance and that metric. So

9:12 2027 funding sources. So for

9:14 the general fund, we are

9:16 between operations and

9:17 administration at about

9:21 165 Million. That's for 959.

9:25 Ft ease firefighters. We have

9:26 a wild Land Special Revenue

9:28 Fund which is a fee for

9:30 services fund that funding

9:34 about 15 ft. Ease. And then we

9:36 of course, ended an internal

9:38 billings for our PRESIDENT,

9:39 sat down for about 137 fte is

9:41 at 26 Million. And then our

9:47 fire pension fund so I would

9:48 imagine you're hearing the

9:49 same thing from all of us that

9:52 our primary cause. Does people

9:55 salary and benefits. And that

9:58 is about 97% of our budget.

9:59 What you see below that is the

10:01 4 million for services and

10:03 supplies. I guess I'm giving

10:05 fair warning. That will be

10:06 something want to talk about

10:10 more because that has dwindled

10:11 lower over the last few years.

10:12 But we're finding that the

10:13 things we use it for like

10:16 urban can gear our fire hose

10:17 cb Azar medical supplies are

10:19 the gloves we wear is rising

10:21 in cost. So the way we're

10:24 going to talk to you about

10:25 that personnel changes were

10:28 not going to be adding or

10:31 deleting people. We will be

10:31 reallocating people. We're

10:32 going to change their

10:34 assignments. So they'll be 11

10:39 people who will be moving from

10:39 support assignments to

10:40 operation supine assignments.

10:41 Nats with the goal of lowering

10:43 over time. Also, they'll be

10:44 one reallocation of an

10:46 operations position that's

10:46 already within wild land that

10:48 we're moving to an admin

10:49 position totaling one 65.0 1

10:55 million. All right. So here's

10:57 the comparison of the General

11:01 Fund versus our staffing. You

11:02 will see that our staffing

11:03 will stay primarily the same

11:04 this year and next year at

11:08 about 959 for authorized

11:09 strength and that our csa

11:12 staffing is at 41, which is

11:13 has gone down a little bit

11:16 from 2025. The reasoning. And

11:17 that has to do with the fact

11:19 that we have re allocated some

11:22 of the csa employees from like

11:23 the department, our finance

11:25 department over underneath the

11:28 director of safety's office

11:32 and also revenue collection

11:33 position is now under under

11:38 the Wild Land Budget. So

11:39 addressing City Council

11:47 priorities. 3 things. Ensuring

11:48 that we're going to be giving

11:51 you the highest quality of

11:51 emergency response with the

11:53 highest quality staffing that

11:55 we can. And that's for us. And

11:58 for Dan, it's for continuing

12:01 to bolster Wild land program.

12:02 Believe it or not, there is

12:04 some well then interface

12:05 between Denver. We've got a

12:08 very robust wildland team.

12:10 It's good for us to be looking

12:10 at how we can be utilizing

12:13 that here in our city as well

12:14 and continuing that program.

12:15 So we'll keep that about as it

12:18 relates to community safety.

12:20 And also as they spoke about

12:21 before with permitting and

12:22 inspections. And that's

12:23 keeping our buildings, people

12:25 healthy within buildings,

12:29 making sure that we have

12:33 compliance around the areas we

12:34 can control prior to it

12:38 becoming an actual incident.

12:39 So what is staying the same

12:43 and what is changing?

12:44 Obviously, our core protection

12:45 services to the community

12:46 community are staying the

12:47 same. We're not reducing any

12:50 budgeting. No ft ease. I'm

12:51 sorry. No budget uniform fte

12:56 is from Dan. We're going to be

12:56 staffing for firefighters on

12:57 every apparatus as we have

13:00 done that will remain. The

13:04 mayor has committed to that

13:05 mayor with the director of

13:08 leadership see the importance

13:08 safety, our union in our

13:11 of a foreperson staffing in

13:14 order to be as effective as we

13:16 as we can be for our

13:19 communities. And then again,

13:19 Oliver fired course. Houses

13:20 are going to remain fully

13:24 open. 24 hours a day with no

13:28 closed ranks. What's changing?

13:30 So there's going to be there

13:30 was a proposed revenue

13:32 increase for permits that

13:35 actually took place in JULY.

13:37 We haven't. It just basically

13:38 began, but they'll be an

13:40 increase in those. And then

13:42 projected increase in volume.

13:44 We're working on keeping that

13:47 area fully staffed. And we've

13:49 added in instead of just

13:52 relying on civilian staffer,

13:54 professional staff. We're now

13:55 allocating so sworn staff. So

13:58 we have overlap in our

13:59 permitting areas. So we make

14:00 sure that we remain staffed

14:02 and we don't have any legs.

14:02 That was a challenge that we

14:08 had in the last year.

14:09 Additionally typically we

14:10 would have to academies per

14:13 year to make up for recidivism

14:14 this year. It's going to be a

14:15 little bit different. We will

14:19 be hosting an 18 person fire

14:20 recruit Academy in 2027 and it

14:21 will be a split funding

14:33 between Dan and for services.

14:36 So as it relates to fire

14:37 Suppression Administration

14:39 services, which is our support

14:42 units and down the first top 3

14:46 are all related to

14:48 reallocations to fill the 26

14:49 27 collective bargaining

14:52 agreement. And then the last

14:55 wild land fires reimbursement

14:57 fee program. That is a

14:58 reallocation of wild, an

15:03 eligible funding that would go

15:04 from the general fund to are

15:07 Wild Land Fund because while

15:08 planned related basically

15:10 staffing over time. Those type

15:19 of items. Then moving on to

15:19 General Fund budget change

15:23 summary. They'll be a 1.1

15:25 million dollar expansion.

15:26 That's for Dan to cover the 26

15:29 27 collective bargaining

15:31 agreement. Then the

15:34 reallocation of that's for

15:35 personal expenditures. And

15:36 that's going from the general

15:40 fund to wild land. Then

15:42 revenue. We are projecting an

15:42 increase 7, it revenue around

15:46 permitting and licensing

15:48 inspections because we have

15:50 we're going to increase our

15:51 staffing. But then also we're